How many files can I put in a directory

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Does it matter how many files I keep in a single directory  If so  how many files in a directory is too many  and what are the impacts of having too many files   This is on a Linux server    Background  I have a photo album website  and every image uploaded is renamed to an 8-hex-digit id  say  a58f375c jpg    This is to avoid filename conflicts  if lots of  IMG0001 JPG  files are uploaded  for example    The original filename and any useful metadata is stored in a database   Right now  I have somewhere around 1500 files in the images directory   This makes listing the files in the directory  through FTP or SSH client  take a few seconds   But I can t see that it has any effect other than that   In particular  there doesn t seem to be any impact on how quickly an image file is served to the user   I ve thought about reducing the number of images by making 16 subdirectories  0-9 and a-f   Then I d move the images into the subdirectories based on what the first hex digit of the filename was   But I m not sure that there s any reason to do so except for the occasional listing of the directory through FTP SSH

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There is no single figure that is  too many   as long as it doesn t exceed the limits of the OS  However  the more files in a directory  regardless of the OS  the longer it takes to access any individual file  and on most OS s  the performance is non-linear  so to find one file out of 10 000 takes more then 10 times longer then to find a file in 1 000    Secondary problems associated with having a lot of files in a directory include wild card expansion failures  To reduce the risks  you might consider ordering your directories by date of upload  or some other useful piece of metadata

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I have had over 8 million files in a single ext3 directory   libc readdir   which is used by find  ls and most of the other methods discussed in this thread to list large directories    The reason ls and find are slow in this case is that readdir   only reads 32K of directory entries at a time  so on slow disks it will require many many reads to list a directory  There is a solution to this speed problem  I wrote a pretty detailed article about it at  http   www olark com spw 2011 08 you-can-list-a-directory-with-8-million-files-but-not-with-ls   The key take away is  use getdents   directly -- http   www kernel org doc man-pages online pages man2 getdents 2 html rather than anything that s based on libc readdir   so you can specify the buffer size when reading directory entries from disk

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Keep in mind that on Linux if you have a directory with too many files  the shell may not be able to expand wildcards  I have this issue with a photo album hosted on Linux  It stores all the resized images in a single directory  While the file system can handle many files  the shell can t  Example   -shell-3 00  ls A  -shell   bin ls  Argument list too long   or  -shell-3 00  chmod 644  jpg -shell   bin chmod  Argument list too long

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I respect this doesn t totally answer your question as to how many is too many  but an idea for solving the long term problem is that in addition to storing the original file metadata  also store which folder on disk it is stored in - normalize out that piece of metadata  Once a folder grows beyond some limit you are comfortable with for performance  aesthetic or whatever reason  you just create a second folder and start dropping files there

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I have had over 8 million files in a single ext3 directory   libc readdir   which is used by find  ls and most of the other methods discussed in this thread to list large directories    The reason ls and find are slow in this case is that readdir   only reads 32K of directory entries at a time  so on slow disks it will require many many reads to list a directory  There is a solution to this speed problem  I wrote a pretty detailed article about it at  http   www olark com spw 2011 08 you-can-list-a-directory-with-8-million-files-but-not-with-ls   The key take away is  use getdents   directly -- http   www kernel org doc man-pages online pages man2 getdents 2 html rather than anything that s based on libc readdir   so you can specify the buffer size when reading directory entries from disk

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Keep in mind that on Linux if you have a directory with too many files  the shell may not be able to expand wildcards  I have this issue with a photo album hosted on Linux  It stores all the resized images in a single directory  While the file system can handle many files  the shell can t  Example   -shell-3 00  ls A  -shell   bin ls  Argument list too long   or  -shell-3 00  chmod 644  jpg -shell   bin chmod  Argument list too long

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It really depends on the filesystem used  and also some flags   For example  ext3 can have many thousands of files  but after a couple of thousands  it used to be very slow  Mostly when listing a directory  but also when opening a single file   A few years ago  it gained the  htree  option  that dramatically shortened the time needed to get an inode given a filename   Personally  I use subdirectories to keep most levels under a thousand or so items  In your case  I d create 256 directories  with the two last hex digits of the ID  Use the last and not the first digits  so you get the load balanced

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FAT32    Maximum number of files  268 173 300 Maximum number of files per directory  216 nbsp - nbsp 1  65 535  Maximum file size  2 nbsp GiB nbsp - nbsp 1 without LFS  4 nbsp GiB nbsp - nbsp 1 with     NTFS    Maximum number of files  232 nbsp - nbsp 1  4 294 967 295   Maximum file size   Implementation  244 nbsp - nbsp 26 bytes  16 nbsp TiB nbsp - nbsp 64 nbsp KiB  Theoretical  264 nbsp - nbsp 26 bytes  16 nbsp EiB nbsp - nbsp 64 nbsp KiB   Maximum volume size   Implementation  232 nbsp - nbsp 1 nbsp clusters  256 nbsp TiB nbsp - nbsp 64 nbsp KiB  Theoretical  264 nbsp - nbsp 1 nbsp clusters nbsp  1 nbsp YiB nbsp - nbsp 64 KiB     ext2    Maximum number of files  1018 Maximum number of files per directory   1 3 nbsp  times  nbsp 1020  performance issues past 10 000  Maximum file size   16 nbsp GiB  block size of 1 nbsp KiB  256 nbsp GiB  block size of 2 nbsp KiB  2 nbsp TiB  block size of 4 nbsp KiB  2 nbsp TiB  block size of 8 nbsp KiB   Maximum volume size   4 nbsp TiB  block size of 1 nbsp KiB  8 nbsp TiB  block size of 2 nbsp KiB  16 nbsp TiB  block size of 4 nbsp KiB  32 nbsp TiB  block size of 8 nbsp KiB     ext3    Maximum number of files  min volumeSize nbsp   nbsp 213  nbsp numberOfBlocks   Maximum file size  same as ext2 Maximum volume size  same as ext2   ext4    Maximum number of files  232 nbsp - nbsp 1  4 294 967 295  Maximum number of files per directory  unlimited Maximum file size  244 nbsp - nbsp 1 nbsp bytes  16 nbsp TiB nbsp - nbsp 1  Maximum volume size  248 nbsp - nbsp 1 nbsp bytes  256 nbsp TiB nbsp - nbsp 1

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It absolutely depends on the filesystem  Many modern filesystems use decent data structures to store the contents of directories  but older filesystems often just added the entries to a list  so retrieving a file was an O n  operation   Even if the filesystem does it right  it s still absolutely possible for programs that list directory contents to mess up and do an O n 2  sort  so to be on the safe side  I d always limit the number of files per directory to no more than 500

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FAT32    Maximum number of files  268 173 300 Maximum number of files per directory  216 nbsp - nbsp 1  65 535  Maximum file size  2 nbsp GiB nbsp - nbsp 1 without LFS  4 nbsp GiB nbsp - nbsp 1 with     NTFS    Maximum number of files  232 nbsp - nbsp 1  4 294 967 295   Maximum file size   Implementation  244 nbsp - nbsp 26 bytes  16 nbsp TiB nbsp - nbsp 64 nbsp KiB  Theoretical  264 nbsp - nbsp 26 bytes  16 nbsp EiB nbsp - nbsp 64 nbsp KiB   Maximum volume size   Implementation  232 nbsp - nbsp 1 nbsp clusters  256 nbsp TiB nbsp - nbsp 64 nbsp KiB  Theoretical  264 nbsp - nbsp 1 nbsp clusters nbsp  1 nbsp YiB nbsp - nbsp 64 KiB     ext2    Maximum number of files  1018 Maximum number of files per directory   1 3 nbsp  times  nbsp 1020  performance issues past 10 000  Maximum file size   16 nbsp GiB  block size of 1 nbsp KiB  256 nbsp GiB  block size of 2 nbsp KiB  2 nbsp TiB  block size of 4 nbsp KiB  2 nbsp TiB  block size of 8 nbsp KiB   Maximum volume size   4 nbsp TiB  block size of 1 nbsp KiB  8 nbsp TiB  block size of 2 nbsp KiB  16 nbsp TiB  block size of 4 nbsp KiB  32 nbsp TiB  block size of 8 nbsp KiB     ext3    Maximum number of files  min volumeSize nbsp   nbsp 213  nbsp numberOfBlocks   Maximum file size  same as ext2 Maximum volume size  same as ext2   ext4    Maximum number of files  232 nbsp - nbsp 1  4 294 967 295  Maximum number of files per directory  unlimited Maximum file size  244 nbsp - nbsp 1 nbsp bytes  16 nbsp TiB nbsp - nbsp 1  Maximum volume size  248 nbsp - nbsp 1 nbsp bytes  256 nbsp TiB nbsp - nbsp 1

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I ran into a similar issue  I was trying to access a directory with over 10 000 files in it  It was taking too long to build the file list and run any type of commands on any of the files   I thought up a little php script to do this for myself and tried to figure a way to prevent it from time out in the browser   The following is the php script I wrote to resolve the issue   Listing Files in a Directory with too many files for FTP  How it helps someone

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I have a directory with 88 914 files in it  Like yourself this is used for storing thumbnails and on a Linux server   Listed files via FTP or a php function is slow yes  but there is also a performance hit on displaying the file  e g  www website com thumbdir gh3hg4h2b4h234b3h2 jpg has a wait time of 200-400 ms  As a comparison on another site I have with a around 100 files in a directory the image is displayed after just  40ms of waiting   I ve given this answer as most people have just written how directory search functions will perform  which you won t be using on a thumb folder - just statically displaying files  but will be interested in performance of how the files can actually be used

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It depends a bit on the specific filesystem in use on the Linux server  Nowadays the default is ext3 with dir index  which makes searching large directories very fast   So speed shouldn t be an issue  other than the one you already noted  which is that listings will take longer   There is a limit to the total number of files in one directory  I seem to remember it definitely working up to 32000 files

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I respect this doesn t totally answer your question as to how many is too many  but an idea for solving the long term problem is that in addition to storing the original file metadata  also store which folder on disk it is stored in - normalize out that piece of metadata  Once a folder grows beyond some limit you are comfortable with for performance  aesthetic or whatever reason  you just create a second folder and start dropping files there

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I m working on a similar problem right now  We have a hierarchichal directory structure and use image ids as filenames  For example  an image with id 1234567 is placed in       45 67 1234567  lt     gt  jpg   using last 4 digits to determine where the file goes   With a few thousand images  you could use a one-level hierarchy  Our sysadmin suggested no more than couple of thousand files in any given directory  ext3  for efficiency   backup   whatever other reasons he had in mind

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I recall running a program that was creating a huge amount of files at the output  The files were sorted at 30000 per directory  I do not recall having any read problems when I had to reuse the produced output  It was on an 32-bit Ubuntu Linux laptop  and even Nautilus displayed the directory contents  albeit after a few seconds   ext3 filesystem  Similar code on a 64-bit system dealt well with 64000 files per directory

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What most of the answers above fail to show is that there is no  One Size Fits All  answer to the original question   In today s environment we have a large conglomerate of different hardware and software -- some is 32 bit  some is 64 bit  some is cutting edge and some is tried and true - reliable and never changing  Added to that is a variety of older and newer hardware  older and newer OSes  different vendors  Windows  Unixes  Apple  etc   and a myriad of utilities and servers that go along  As hardware has improved and software is converted to 64 bit compatibility  there has necessarily been considerable delay in getting all the pieces of this very large and complex world to play nicely with the rapid pace of changes   IMHO there is no one way to fix a problem   The solution is to research the possibilities and then by trial and error find what works best for your particular needs   Each user must determine what works for their system rather than using a cookie cutter approach   I for example have a media server with a few very large files   The result is only about 400 files filling a 3 TB drive  Only 1  of the inodes are used but 95  of the total space is used  Someone else  with a lot of smaller files may run out of inodes before they come near to filling the space   On ext4 filesystems as a rule of thumb  1 inode is used for each file directory   While theoretically the total number of files that may be contained within a directory is nearly infinite  practicality determines that the overall usage determine realistic units  not just filesystem capabilities   I hope that all the different answers above have promoted thought and problem solving rather than presenting an insurmountable barrier to progress

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I ran into a similar issue  I was trying to access a directory with over 10 000 files in it  It was taking too long to build the file list and run any type of commands on any of the files   I thought up a little php script to do this for myself and tried to figure a way to prevent it from time out in the browser   The following is the php script I wrote to resolve the issue   Listing Files in a Directory with too many files for FTP  How it helps someone

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What most of the answers above fail to show is that there is no  One Size Fits All  answer to the original question   In today s environment we have a large conglomerate of different hardware and software -- some is 32 bit  some is 64 bit  some is cutting edge and some is tried and true - reliable and never changing  Added to that is a variety of older and newer hardware  older and newer OSes  different vendors  Windows  Unixes  Apple  etc   and a myriad of utilities and servers that go along  As hardware has improved and software is converted to 64 bit compatibility  there has necessarily been considerable delay in getting all the pieces of this very large and complex world to play nicely with the rapid pace of changes   IMHO there is no one way to fix a problem   The solution is to research the possibilities and then by trial and error find what works best for your particular needs   Each user must determine what works for their system rather than using a cookie cutter approach   I for example have a media server with a few very large files   The result is only about 400 files filling a 3 TB drive  Only 1  of the inodes are used but 95  of the total space is used  Someone else  with a lot of smaller files may run out of inodes before they come near to filling the space   On ext4 filesystems as a rule of thumb  1 inode is used for each file directory   While theoretically the total number of files that may be contained within a directory is nearly infinite  practicality determines that the overall usage determine realistic units  not just filesystem capabilities   I hope that all the different answers above have promoted thought and problem solving rather than presenting an insurmountable barrier to progress

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I ve been having the same issue  Trying to store millions of files in a Ubuntu server in ext4  Ended running my own benchmarks  Found out that flat directory performs way better while being way simpler to use     Wrote an article

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FAT32    Maximum number of files  268 173 300 Maximum number of files per directory  216 nbsp - nbsp 1  65 535  Maximum file size  2 nbsp GiB nbsp - nbsp 1 without LFS  4 nbsp GiB nbsp - nbsp 1 with     NTFS    Maximum number of files  232 nbsp - nbsp 1  4 294 967 295   Maximum file size   Implementation  244 nbsp - nbsp 26 bytes  16 nbsp TiB nbsp - nbsp 64 nbsp KiB  Theoretical  264 nbsp - nbsp 26 bytes  16 nbsp EiB nbsp - nbsp 64 nbsp KiB   Maximum volume size   Implementation  232 nbsp - nbsp 1 nbsp clusters  256 nbsp TiB nbsp - nbsp 64 nbsp KiB  Theoretical  264 nbsp - nbsp 1 nbsp clusters nbsp  1 nbsp YiB nbsp - nbsp 64 KiB     ext2    Maximum number of files  1018 Maximum number of files per directory   1 3 nbsp  times  nbsp 1020  performance issues past 10 000  Maximum file size   16 nbsp GiB  block size of 1 nbsp KiB  256 nbsp GiB  block size of 2 nbsp KiB  2 nbsp TiB  block size of 4 nbsp KiB  2 nbsp TiB  block size of 8 nbsp KiB   Maximum volume size   4 nbsp TiB  block size of 1 nbsp KiB  8 nbsp TiB  block size of 2 nbsp KiB  16 nbsp TiB  block size of 4 nbsp KiB  32 nbsp TiB  block size of 8 nbsp KiB     ext3    Maximum number of files  min volumeSize nbsp   nbsp 213  nbsp numberOfBlocks   Maximum file size  same as ext2 Maximum volume size  same as ext2   ext4    Maximum number of files  232 nbsp - nbsp 1  4 294 967 295  Maximum number of files per directory  unlimited Maximum file size  244 nbsp - nbsp 1 nbsp bytes  16 nbsp TiB nbsp - nbsp 1  Maximum volume size  248 nbsp - nbsp 1 nbsp bytes  256 nbsp TiB nbsp - nbsp 1

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ext3 does in fact have directory size limits  and they depend on the block size of the filesystem   There isn t a per-directory  max number  of files  but a per-directory  max number of blocks used to store file entries    Specifically  the size of the directory itself can t grow beyond a b-tree of height 3  and the fanout of the tree depends on the block size   See this link for some details   https   www mail-archive com cwelug googlegroups com msg01944 html  I was bitten by this recently on a filesystem formatted with 2K blocks  which was inexplicably getting directory-full kernel messages warning  ext3 dx add entry  Directory index full  when I was copying from another ext3 filesystem   In my case  a directory with a mere 480 000 files was unable to be copied to the destination

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I ve been having the same issue  Trying to store millions of files in a Ubuntu server in ext4  Ended running my own benchmarks  Found out that flat directory performs way better while being way simpler to use     Wrote an article

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The question comes down to what you re going to do with the files   Under Windows  any directory with more than 2k files tends to open slowly for me in Explorer  If they re all image files  more than 1k tend to open very slowly in thumbnail view   At one time  the system-imposed limit was 32 767  It s higher now  but even that is way too many files to handle at one time under most circumstances

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If the time involved in implementing a directory partitioning scheme is minimal  I am in favor of it   The first time you have to debug a problem that involves manipulating a 10000-file directory via the console you will understand   As an example  F-Spot stores photo files as YYYY MM DD filename ext  which means the largest directory I have had to deal with while manually manipulating my  20000-photo collection is about 800 files   This also makes the files more easily browsable from a third party application   Never assume that your software is the only thing that will be accessing your software s files

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For what it s worth  I just created a directory on an ext4 file system with 1 000 000 files in it  then randomly accessed those files through a web server  I didn t notice any premium on accessing those over  say  only having 10 files there   This is radically different from my experience doing this on ntfs a few years back

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Not an answer  but just some suggestions   Select a more suitable FS  file system   Since from a historic point of view  all your issues were wise enough  to be once central to FSs evolving over decades  I mean more modern FS better support your issues  First make a comparison decision table based on your ultimate purpose from FS list   I think its time to shift your paradigms  So I personally suggest using a distributed system aware FS  which means no limits at all regarding size  number of files and etc  Otherwise you will sooner or later challenged by new unanticipated problems   I m not sure to work  but if you don t mention some experimentation  give AUFS over your current file system a try  I guess it has facilities to mimic multiple folders as a single virtual folder   To overcome hardware limits you can use RAID-0

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I respect this doesn t totally answer your question as to how many is too many  but an idea for solving the long term problem is that in addition to storing the original file metadata  also store which folder on disk it is stored in - normalize out that piece of metadata  Once a folder grows beyond some limit you are comfortable with for performance  aesthetic or whatever reason  you just create a second folder and start dropping files there

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It depends a bit on the specific filesystem in use on the Linux server  Nowadays the default is ext3 with dir index  which makes searching large directories very fast   So speed shouldn t be an issue  other than the one you already noted  which is that listings will take longer   There is a limit to the total number of files in one directory  I seem to remember it definitely working up to 32000 files

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I m working on a similar problem right now  We have a hierarchichal directory structure and use image ids as filenames  For example  an image with id 1234567 is placed in       45 67 1234567  lt     gt  jpg   using last 4 digits to determine where the file goes   With a few thousand images  you could use a one-level hierarchy  Our sysadmin suggested no more than couple of thousand files in any given directory  ext3  for efficiency   backup   whatever other reasons he had in mind

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It depends a bit on the specific filesystem in use on the Linux server  Nowadays the default is ext3 with dir index  which makes searching large directories very fast   So speed shouldn t be an issue  other than the one you already noted  which is that listings will take longer   There is a limit to the total number of files in one directory  I seem to remember it definitely working up to 32000 files

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I recall running a program that was creating a huge amount of files at the output  The files were sorted at 30000 per directory  I do not recall having any read problems when I had to reuse the produced output  It was on an 32-bit Ubuntu Linux laptop  and even Nautilus displayed the directory contents  albeit after a few seconds   ext3 filesystem  Similar code on a 64-bit system dealt well with 64000 files per directory

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If the time involved in implementing a directory partitioning scheme is minimal  I am in favor of it   The first time you have to debug a problem that involves manipulating a 10000-file directory via the console you will understand   As an example  F-Spot stores photo files as YYYY MM DD filename ext  which means the largest directory I have had to deal with while manually manipulating my  20000-photo collection is about 800 files   This also makes the files more easily browsable from a third party application   Never assume that your software is the only thing that will be accessing your software s files

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Keep in mind that on Linux if you have a directory with too many files  the shell may not be able to expand wildcards  I have this issue with a photo album hosted on Linux  It stores all the resized images in a single directory  While the file system can handle many files  the shell can t  Example   -shell-3 00  ls A  -shell   bin ls  Argument list too long   or  -shell-3 00  chmod 644  jpg -shell   bin chmod  Argument list too long

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The biggest issue I ve run into is on a 32-bit system  Once you pass a certain number  tools like  ls  stop working   Trying to do anything with that directory once you pass that barrier becomes a huge problem

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It really depends on the filesystem used  and also some flags   For example  ext3 can have many thousands of files  but after a couple of thousands  it used to be very slow  Mostly when listing a directory  but also when opening a single file   A few years ago  it gained the  htree  option  that dramatically shortened the time needed to get an inode given a filename   Personally  I use subdirectories to keep most levels under a thousand or so items  In your case  I d create 256 directories  with the two last hex digits of the ID  Use the last and not the first digits  so you get the load balanced

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I m working on a similar problem right now  We have a hierarchichal directory structure and use image ids as filenames  For example  an image with id 1234567 is placed in       45 67 1234567  lt     gt  jpg   using last 4 digits to determine where the file goes   With a few thousand images  you could use a one-level hierarchy  Our sysadmin suggested no more than couple of thousand files in any given directory  ext3  for efficiency   backup   whatever other reasons he had in mind

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I m working on a similar problem right now  We have a hierarchichal directory structure and use image ids as filenames  For example  an image with id 1234567 is placed in       45 67 1234567  lt     gt  jpg   using last 4 digits to determine where the file goes   With a few thousand images  you could use a one-level hierarchy  Our sysadmin suggested no more than couple of thousand files in any given directory  ext3  for efficiency   backup   whatever other reasons he had in mind

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If the time involved in implementing a directory partitioning scheme is minimal  I am in favor of it   The first time you have to debug a problem that involves manipulating a 10000-file directory via the console you will understand   As an example  F-Spot stores photo files as YYYY MM DD filename ext  which means the largest directory I have had to deal with while manually manipulating my  20000-photo collection is about 800 files   This also makes the files more easily browsable from a third party application   Never assume that your software is the only thing that will be accessing your software s files

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There is no single figure that is  too many   as long as it doesn t exceed the limits of the OS  However  the more files in a directory  regardless of the OS  the longer it takes to access any individual file  and on most OS s  the performance is non-linear  so to find one file out of 10 000 takes more then 10 times longer then to find a file in 1 000    Secondary problems associated with having a lot of files in a directory include wild card expansion failures  To reduce the risks  you might consider ordering your directories by date of upload  or some other useful piece of metadata

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Depends on filesystem  Some users mentioned that the performance impact depends on the used filesystem  Of course  Filesystems like EXT3 can be very slow  But even if you use EXT4 or XFS you can not prevent that listing a folder through ls or find or through an external connection like FTP will become slower an slower   Solution I prefer the same way as  armandino  For that I use this little function in PHP to convert IDs into a filepath that results 1000 files per directory   function dynamic path  int           1000   1000 files per dir        10000   10000 files per dir        2   100 dirs per dir        3   1000 dirs per dir     return implode      str split intval  int   1000   2              or you could use the second version if you want to use alpha-numeric characters   function dynamic path2  str           26 alpha   10 num   3 special chars    -    39 combinations        -1   39 2   1521 files per dir        -2   39 3   59319 files per dir  if every combination exists       left   substr  str  0  -1       return implode      str split  left    left    str 0   2              results    lt  php  files   explode       1 jpg 12 jpg 123 jpg 999 jpg 1000 jpg 1234 jpg 1999 jpg 2000 jpg 12345 jpg 123456 jpg 1234567 jpg 12345678 jpg 123456789 jpg    foreach   files as  file        echo dynamic path basename  file    jpg       file   PHP EOL      gt   1 1 jpg 1 12 jpg 1 123 jpg 1 999 jpg 1 1000 jpg 2 1234 jpg 2 1999 jpg 2 2000 jpg 13 12345 jpg 12 4 123456 jpg 12 35 1234567 jpg 12 34 6 12345678 jpg 12 34 57 123456789 jpg   lt  php  files   array merge  files  explode       a jpg b jpg ab jpg abc jpg ddd jpg af ff jpg abcd jpg akkk jpg bf ff jpg abc-de jpg abcdef jpg abcdefg jpg abcdefgh jpg abcdefghi jpg     foreach   files as  file        echo dynamic path2 basename  file    jpg       file   PHP EOL      gt   1 1 jpg 1 12 jpg 12 123 jpg 99 999 jpg 10 0 1000 jpg 12 3 1234 jpg 19 9 1999 jpg 20 0 2000 jpg 12 34 12345 jpg 12 34 5 123456 jpg 12 34 56 1234567 jpg 12 34 56 7 12345678 jpg 12 34 56 78 123456789 jpg a a jpg b b jpg a ab jpg ab abc jpg dd ddd jpg af  f af ff jpg ab c abcd jpg ak k akkk jpg bf  f bf ff jpg ab c- d abc-de jpg ab cd e abcdef jpg ab cd ef abcdefg jpg ab cd ef g abcdefgh jpg ab cd ef gh abcdefghi jpg   As you can see for the  int-version every folder contains up to 1000 files and up to 99 directories containing 1000 files and 99 directories      But do not forget that to many directories cause the same performance problems   Finally you should think about how to reduce the amount of files in total  Depending on your target you can use CSS sprites to combine multiple tiny images like avatars  icons  smilies  etc  or if you use many small non-media files consider combining them e g  in JSON format  In my case I had thousands of mini-caches and finally I decided to combine them in packs of 10

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It absolutely depends on the filesystem  Many modern filesystems use decent data structures to store the contents of directories  but older filesystems often just added the entries to a list  so retrieving a file was an O n  operation   Even if the filesystem does it right  it s still absolutely possible for programs that list directory contents to mess up and do an O n 2  sort  so to be on the safe side  I d always limit the number of files per directory to no more than 500

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ext3 does in fact have directory size limits  and they depend on the block size of the filesystem   There isn t a per-directory  max number  of files  but a per-directory  max number of blocks used to store file entries    Specifically  the size of the directory itself can t grow beyond a b-tree of height 3  and the fanout of the tree depends on the block size   See this link for some details   https   www mail-archive com cwelug googlegroups com msg01944 html  I was bitten by this recently on a filesystem formatted with 2K blocks  which was inexplicably getting directory-full kernel messages warning  ext3 dx add entry  Directory index full  when I was copying from another ext3 filesystem   In my case  a directory with a mere 480 000 files was unable to be copied to the destination

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The question comes down to what you re going to do with the files   Under Windows  any directory with more than 2k files tends to open slowly for me in Explorer  If they re all image files  more than 1k tend to open very slowly in thumbnail view   At one time  the system-imposed limit was 32 767  It s higher now  but even that is way too many files to handle at one time under most circumstances

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Keep in mind that on Linux if you have a directory with too many files  the shell may not be able to expand wildcards  I have this issue with a photo album hosted on Linux  It stores all the resized images in a single directory  While the file system can handle many files  the shell can t  Example   -shell-3 00  ls A  -shell   bin ls  Argument list too long   or  -shell-3 00  chmod 644  jpg -shell   bin chmod  Argument list too long

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It absolutely depends on the filesystem  Many modern filesystems use decent data structures to store the contents of directories  but older filesystems often just added the entries to a list  so retrieving a file was an O n  operation   Even if the filesystem does it right  it s still absolutely possible for programs that list directory contents to mess up and do an O n 2  sort  so to be on the safe side  I d always limit the number of files per directory to no more than 500

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It absolutely depends on the filesystem  Many modern filesystems use decent data structures to store the contents of directories  but older filesystems often just added the entries to a list  so retrieving a file was an O n  operation   Even if the filesystem does it right  it s still absolutely possible for programs that list directory contents to mess up and do an O n 2  sort  so to be on the safe side  I d always limit the number of files per directory to no more than 500

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For what it s worth  I just created a directory on an ext4 file system with 1 000 000 files in it  then randomly accessed those files through a web server  I didn t notice any premium on accessing those over  say  only having 10 files there   This is radically different from my experience doing this on ntfs a few years back

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The biggest issue I ve run into is on a 32-bit system  Once you pass a certain number  tools like  ls  stop working   Trying to do anything with that directory once you pass that barrier becomes a huge problem

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Depends on filesystem  Some users mentioned that the performance impact depends on the used filesystem  Of course  Filesystems like EXT3 can be very slow  But even if you use EXT4 or XFS you can not prevent that listing a folder through ls or find or through an external connection like FTP will become slower an slower   Solution I prefer the same way as  armandino  For that I use this little function in PHP to convert IDs into a filepath that results 1000 files per directory   function dynamic path  int           1000   1000 files per dir        10000   10000 files per dir        2   100 dirs per dir        3   1000 dirs per dir     return implode      str split intval  int   1000   2              or you could use the second version if you want to use alpha-numeric characters   function dynamic path2  str           26 alpha   10 num   3 special chars    -    39 combinations        -1   39 2   1521 files per dir        -2   39 3   59319 files per dir  if every combination exists       left   substr  str  0  -1       return implode      str split  left    left    str 0   2              results    lt  php  files   explode       1 jpg 12 jpg 123 jpg 999 jpg 1000 jpg 1234 jpg 1999 jpg 2000 jpg 12345 jpg 123456 jpg 1234567 jpg 12345678 jpg 123456789 jpg    foreach   files as  file        echo dynamic path basename  file    jpg       file   PHP EOL      gt   1 1 jpg 1 12 jpg 1 123 jpg 1 999 jpg 1 1000 jpg 2 1234 jpg 2 1999 jpg 2 2000 jpg 13 12345 jpg 12 4 123456 jpg 12 35 1234567 jpg 12 34 6 12345678 jpg 12 34 57 123456789 jpg   lt  php  files   array merge  files  explode       a jpg b jpg ab jpg abc jpg ddd jpg af ff jpg abcd jpg akkk jpg bf ff jpg abc-de jpg abcdef jpg abcdefg jpg abcdefgh jpg abcdefghi jpg     foreach   files as  file        echo dynamic path2 basename  file    jpg       file   PHP EOL      gt   1 1 jpg 1 12 jpg 12 123 jpg 99 999 jpg 10 0 1000 jpg 12 3 1234 jpg 19 9 1999 jpg 20 0 2000 jpg 12 34 12345 jpg 12 34 5 123456 jpg 12 34 56 1234567 jpg 12 34 56 7 12345678 jpg 12 34 56 78 123456789 jpg a a jpg b b jpg a ab jpg ab abc jpg dd ddd jpg af  f af ff jpg ab c abcd jpg ak k akkk jpg bf  f bf ff jpg ab c- d abc-de jpg ab cd e abcdef jpg ab cd ef abcdefg jpg ab cd ef g abcdefgh jpg ab cd ef gh abcdefghi jpg   As you can see for the  int-version every folder contains up to 1000 files and up to 99 directories containing 1000 files and 99 directories      But do not forget that to many directories cause the same performance problems   Finally you should think about how to reduce the amount of files in total  Depending on your target you can use CSS sprites to combine multiple tiny images like avatars  icons  smilies  etc  or if you use many small non-media files consider combining them e g  in JSON format  In my case I had thousands of mini-caches and finally I decided to combine them in packs of 10

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It really depends on the filesystem used  and also some flags   For example  ext3 can have many thousands of files  but after a couple of thousands  it used to be very slow  Mostly when listing a directory  but also when opening a single file   A few years ago  it gained the  htree  option  that dramatically shortened the time needed to get an inode given a filename   Personally  I use subdirectories to keep most levels under a thousand or so items  In your case  I d create 256 directories  with the two last hex digits of the ID  Use the last and not the first digits  so you get the load balanced

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If the time involved in implementing a directory partitioning scheme is minimal  I am in favor of it   The first time you have to debug a problem that involves manipulating a 10000-file directory via the console you will understand   As an example  F-Spot stores photo files as YYYY MM DD filename ext  which means the largest directory I have had to deal with while manually manipulating my  20000-photo collection is about 800 files   This also makes the files more easily browsable from a third party application   Never assume that your software is the only thing that will be accessing your software s files

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The biggest issue I ve run into is on a 32-bit system  Once you pass a certain number  tools like  ls  stop working   Trying to do anything with that directory once you pass that barrier becomes a huge problem

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I respect this doesn t totally answer your question as to how many is too many  but an idea for solving the long term problem is that in addition to storing the original file metadata  also store which folder on disk it is stored in - normalize out that piece of metadata  Once a folder grows beyond some limit you are comfortable with for performance  aesthetic or whatever reason  you just create a second folder and start dropping files there

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FAT32    Maximum number of files  268 173 300 Maximum number of files per directory  216 nbsp - nbsp 1  65 535  Maximum file size  2 nbsp GiB nbsp - nbsp 1 without LFS  4 nbsp GiB nbsp - nbsp 1 with     NTFS    Maximum number of files  232 nbsp - nbsp 1  4 294 967 295   Maximum file size   Implementation  244 nbsp - nbsp 26 bytes  16 nbsp TiB nbsp - nbsp 64 nbsp KiB  Theoretical  264 nbsp - nbsp 26 bytes  16 nbsp EiB nbsp - nbsp 64 nbsp KiB   Maximum volume size   Implementation  232 nbsp - nbsp 1 nbsp clusters  256 nbsp TiB nbsp - nbsp 64 nbsp KiB  Theoretical  264 nbsp - nbsp 1 nbsp clusters nbsp  1 nbsp YiB nbsp - nbsp 64 KiB     ext2    Maximum number of files  1018 Maximum number of files per directory   1 3 nbsp  times  nbsp 1020  performance issues past 10 000  Maximum file size   16 nbsp GiB  block size of 1 nbsp KiB  256 nbsp GiB  block size of 2 nbsp KiB  2 nbsp TiB  block size of 4 nbsp KiB  2 nbsp TiB  block size of 8 nbsp KiB   Maximum volume size   4 nbsp TiB  block size of 1 nbsp KiB  8 nbsp TiB  block size of 2 nbsp KiB  16 nbsp TiB  block size of 4 nbsp KiB  32 nbsp TiB  block size of 8 nbsp KiB     ext3    Maximum number of files  min volumeSize nbsp   nbsp 213  nbsp numberOfBlocks   Maximum file size  same as ext2 Maximum volume size  same as ext2   ext4    Maximum number of files  232 nbsp - nbsp 1  4 294 967 295  Maximum number of files per directory  unlimited Maximum file size  244 nbsp - nbsp 1 nbsp bytes  16 nbsp TiB nbsp - nbsp 1  Maximum volume size  248 nbsp - nbsp 1 nbsp bytes  256 nbsp TiB nbsp - nbsp 1

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The question comes down to what you re going to do with the files   Under Windows  any directory with more than 2k files tends to open slowly for me in Explorer  If they re all image files  more than 1k tend to open very slowly in thumbnail view   At one time  the system-imposed limit was 32 767  It s higher now  but even that is way too many files to handle at one time under most circumstances

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I have a directory with 88 914 files in it  Like yourself this is used for storing thumbnails and on a Linux server   Listed files via FTP or a php function is slow yes  but there is also a performance hit on displaying the file  e g  www website com thumbdir gh3hg4h2b4h234b3h2 jpg has a wait time of 200-400 ms  As a comparison on another site I have with a around 100 files in a directory the image is displayed after just  40ms of waiting   I ve given this answer as most people have just written how directory search functions will perform  which you won t be using on a thumb folder - just statically displaying files  but will be interested in performance of how the files can actually be used

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The biggest issue I ve run into is on a 32-bit system  Once you pass a certain number  tools like  ls  stop working   Trying to do anything with that directory once you pass that barrier becomes a huge problem

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It really depends on the filesystem used  and also some flags   For example  ext3 can have many thousands of files  but after a couple of thousands  it used to be very slow  Mostly when listing a directory  but also when opening a single file   A few years ago  it gained the  htree  option  that dramatically shortened the time needed to get an inode given a filename   Personally  I use subdirectories to keep most levels under a thousand or so items  In your case  I d create 256 directories  with the two last hex digits of the ID  Use the last and not the first digits  so you get the load balanced

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I recall running a program that was creating a huge amount of files at the output  The files were sorted at 30000 per directory  I do not recall having any read problems when I had to reuse the produced output  It was on an 32-bit Ubuntu Linux laptop  and even Nautilus displayed the directory contents  albeit after a few seconds   ext3 filesystem  Similar code on a 64-bit system dealt well with 64000 files per directory

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It depends a bit on the specific filesystem in use on the Linux server  Nowadays the default is ext3 with dir index  which makes searching large directories very fast   So speed shouldn t be an issue  other than the one you already noted  which is that listings will take longer   There is a limit to the total number of files in one directory  I seem to remember it definitely working up to 32000 files

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The question comes down to what you re going to do with the files   Under Windows  any directory with more than 2k files tends to open slowly for me in Explorer  If they re all image files  more than 1k tend to open very slowly in thumbnail view   At one time  the system-imposed limit was 32 767  It s higher now  but even that is way too many files to handle at one time under most circumstances

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Not an answer  but just some suggestions   Select a more suitable FS  file system   Since from a historic point of view  all your issues were wise enough  to be once central to FSs evolving over decades  I mean more modern FS better support your issues  First make a comparison decision table based on your ultimate purpose from FS list   I think its time to shift your paradigms  So I personally suggest using a distributed system aware FS  which means no limits at all regarding size  number of files and etc  Otherwise you will sooner or later challenged by new unanticipated problems   I m not sure to work  but if you don t mention some experimentation  give AUFS over your current file system a try  I guess it has facilities to mimic multiple folders as a single virtual folder   To overcome hardware limits you can use RAID-0

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I recall running a program that was creating a huge amount of files at the output  The files were sorted at 30000 per directory  I do not recall having any read problems when I had to reuse the produced output  It was on an 32-bit Ubuntu Linux laptop  and even Nautilus displayed the directory contents  albeit after a few seconds   ext3 filesystem  Similar code on a 64-bit system dealt well with 64000 files per directory

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