Will Google Android ever support NET

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Now that the G1 with Google s Android OS is now available  soon   will the android platform ever support  Net

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Yes  it will be possible and it won t be that difficult  All what s needed at this point to start with is some kind of converter that will turn MSIL into Dalvik bytecode  Since both formats are open-sourced and well documented  there won t be any problem with it   So  writing Android applications in C  or VB NET will be possible  question is how much of  NET framework standard libraries will be supported  But that s another issue      Oscar Reyes wrote       I m pretty sure if google hand ANY   interest in  net  they would ve design   something while Android was in the   first stages  not now when they are in   production stages  I don t mean it is   not possible  what I m saying is   they re not interested  Maybe in mmm   hhhh 10 yrs    Actually what they ve already designed is very compatible with Java and  NET  They can t do everything at once  but if you look into Android SDK  there is a tool called dx  This tool converts Java bytecode into Dalvik bytecode  so in other words  you can run programs written in Java on Android with no effort today  Now the same tool is needed for  NET   Considering how similar  NET and Java are  it s really a matter of time      ddimitrov wrote       The  Net- Java- Dalvik translation can   be done even now    http   dev mainsoft com    but I   think you underestimate the lack of    Net libraries  Of course somebody can   port Mono  but it s definitely a   non-trivial effort    No need to port Mono  Android already has VM and some basic API  All what s needed is CIL- Dalvik converter and tiny  NET wrapper for Android API  and maybe some basic implementation of some standard  NET classes   That s it   Update   NET already works on Android - you will need product called Monodroid  http   monodroid net  as stated above

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NET compact framework has been ported to Symbian OS  http   www redfivelabs com    If  NET as a  closed  platform can be ported to this platform  I can t see any reason why it cannot be done for Android

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A modified port of Mono is also entirely possible

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In my opinion  it would be technically possible to convert the CLI Bytecode to Dalvik  and to write wrapper classes for some core features such as Collections  File access  etc   even it would be hard work   But a  NET desktop application ran on android would feel alien  as it would have a classic Windows-Like GUI which is not very usable on a touch device  If  on the other hand  you were to code an android-like GUI in  NET  you would need another set of wrappers  notice that wrapping is just the other way round opposed to the wrappers mentioned above    I m not sure if a  NET mobile application would feel native on android  but I d guess it wouldn t   Maybe you re interestend in another approach  You can write your application in the Java language  You can then compile it to  NET via Microsoft J   I know it s discontinued but you can still download and use it  and use the same Java code on android  Again  that s for the core classes aka business logic and again you would have to write tow GUIs  Maybe you can tages J2ME as well  which you will not be able to do if you use  NET

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Update  Since I wrote this answer two years ago  we productized Mono to run on Android    The work included a few steps  porting Mono to Android  integrating it with Visual Studio  building plugins for MonoDevelop on Mac and Windows and exposing the Java Android APIs to  NET languages    This is now available at http   monodroid net   Getting Started  http   monodroid net Welcome Documentation  http   monodroid net Documentation Tutorials  http   monodroid net Tutorials   Mono on Android is based on the Mono 2 10 runtime  and defaults to 4 0 profile with the C  4 0 compiler and uses Mono s new SGen garbage collection engine  as well as our new distributed garbage collection system that performs GC across Java and Mono     The links below reflect Mono on Android as of January of 2009  I have kept them for historical context  Mono now works on Android thanks to the work of Koushik Dutta and Marc Crichton   You can see a video of it running here  http   www koushikdutta com 2009 01 mono-on-android-with-gratuitous-shaky html  And you can get the instructions to build Mono yourself here  http   www koushikdutta com 2009 01 building-mono-for-android html  You can get a benchmark comparing Mono s JIT vs Dalvik s interpreter here  http   www koushikdutta com 2009 01 dalvik-vs-mono html  And of course  you can get a pre-configured image with Mono here  go to the bottom of the post for details on using that   http   www koushikdutta com 2009 01 building-mono-for-android html

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Yes  it will be possible and it won t be that difficult  All what s needed at this point to start with is some kind of converter that will turn MSIL into Dalvik bytecode  Since both formats are open-sourced and well documented  there won t be any problem with it   So  writing Android applications in C  or VB NET will be possible  question is how much of  NET framework standard libraries will be supported  But that s another issue      Oscar Reyes wrote       I m pretty sure if google hand ANY   interest in  net  they would ve design   something while Android was in the   first stages  not now when they are in   production stages  I don t mean it is   not possible  what I m saying is   they re not interested  Maybe in mmm   hhhh 10 yrs    Actually what they ve already designed is very compatible with Java and  NET  They can t do everything at once  but if you look into Android SDK  there is a tool called dx  This tool converts Java bytecode into Dalvik bytecode  so in other words  you can run programs written in Java on Android with no effort today  Now the same tool is needed for  NET   Considering how similar  NET and Java are  it s really a matter of time      ddimitrov wrote       The  Net- Java- Dalvik translation can   be done even now    http   dev mainsoft com    but I   think you underestimate the lack of    Net libraries  Of course somebody can   port Mono  but it s definitely a   non-trivial effort    No need to port Mono  Android already has VM and some basic API  All what s needed is CIL- Dalvik converter and tiny  NET wrapper for Android API  and maybe some basic implementation of some standard  NET classes   That s it   Update   NET already works on Android - you will need product called Monodroid  http   monodroid net  as stated above

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NET compact framework has been ported to Symbian OS  http   www redfivelabs com    If  NET as a  closed  platform can be ported to this platform  I can t see any reason why it cannot be done for Android

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You re more likely to see an Android implementation of Silverlight  Microsoft rep has confirmed that it s possible  vs  the iPhone where the rep said it was problematic    But a version of the  Net framework is possible  Just need someone to care about it that much     But really  moving from C  to Java isn t that big of a deal and considering the drastic differences between the two platforms  PC vs  G1  it seems unlikely that you d be able to get by with one codebase for any app that you wanted to run on both

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Update  Since I wrote this answer two years ago  we productized Mono to run on Android    The work included a few steps  porting Mono to Android  integrating it with Visual Studio  building plugins for MonoDevelop on Mac and Windows and exposing the Java Android APIs to  NET languages    This is now available at http   monodroid net   Getting Started  http   monodroid net Welcome Documentation  http   monodroid net Documentation Tutorials  http   monodroid net Tutorials   Mono on Android is based on the Mono 2 10 runtime  and defaults to 4 0 profile with the C  4 0 compiler and uses Mono s new SGen garbage collection engine  as well as our new distributed garbage collection system that performs GC across Java and Mono     The links below reflect Mono on Android as of January of 2009  I have kept them for historical context  Mono now works on Android thanks to the work of Koushik Dutta and Marc Crichton   You can see a video of it running here  http   www koushikdutta com 2009 01 mono-on-android-with-gratuitous-shaky html  And you can get the instructions to build Mono yourself here  http   www koushikdutta com 2009 01 building-mono-for-android html  You can get a benchmark comparing Mono s JIT vs Dalvik s interpreter here  http   www koushikdutta com 2009 01 dalvik-vs-mono html  And of course  you can get a pre-configured image with Mono here  go to the bottom of the post for details on using that   http   www koushikdutta com 2009 01 building-mono-for-android html

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NET and Mono are great environments  with many tools and and excellent skills base of people who know how to use them     I think Mono has the opportunity to be the mobile cross-platform development environment of choice  seeing as they are the only alternative to Objective-C on the iPhone and should be portable to Android  and  NET is already on Windows Mobile   I m really hoping to see a solid implementation of Mono on Android  with wrappers for the Android API as with Monotouch  and would be prepared to pay for it since I m not in a position to do it myself

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In my opinion  it would be technically possible to convert the CLI Bytecode to Dalvik  and to write wrapper classes for some core features such as Collections  File access  etc   even it would be hard work   But a  NET desktop application ran on android would feel alien  as it would have a classic Windows-Like GUI which is not very usable on a touch device  If  on the other hand  you were to code an android-like GUI in  NET  you would need another set of wrappers  notice that wrapping is just the other way round opposed to the wrappers mentioned above    I m not sure if a  NET mobile application would feel native on android  but I d guess it wouldn t   Maybe you re interestend in another approach  You can write your application in the Java language  You can then compile it to  NET via Microsoft J   I know it s discontinued but you can still download and use it  and use the same Java code on android  Again  that s for the core classes aka business logic and again you would have to write tow GUIs  Maybe you can tages J2ME as well  which you will not be able to do if you use  NET

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NET for Android seems like a real possibility to me  There is news that Microsoft will release proper Silverlight for Android- Never underestimate the advantages to Microsoft for putting the boot into Apple  A smartphone that is faster  more feature rich  faster development lifecycle  impressive hardware  Flash  amp  Silverlight as a standard installable    Microsoft has a vested interest in improving Android  and at the same time  applications will be devloped for Silverlight on Android will also work on Windows Phone 7 OS with multi-touch  GPS  etc   etc

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A modified port of Mono is also entirely possible

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You re more likely to see an Android implementation of Silverlight  Microsoft rep has confirmed that it s possible  vs  the iPhone where the rep said it was problematic    But a version of the  Net framework is possible  Just need someone to care about it that much     But really  moving from C  to Java isn t that big of a deal and considering the drastic differences between the two platforms  PC vs  G1  it seems unlikely that you d be able to get by with one codebase for any app that you wanted to run on both

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You re more likely to see an Android implementation of Silverlight  Microsoft rep has confirmed that it s possible  vs  the iPhone where the rep said it was problematic    But a version of the  Net framework is possible  Just need someone to care about it that much     But really  moving from C  to Java isn t that big of a deal and considering the drastic differences between the two platforms  PC vs  G1  it seems unlikely that you d be able to get by with one codebase for any app that you wanted to run on both

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MonoDroid is awailable for preview  I think that will bridge the gap  However  MonoDroid could be a costly option for development  Their other development tools costs anywhere between  199 and  4000  The MonoTouch    iPhone dev tool     is priced between  399 and  3999   If people develop apps with these tools  they need a very strong business model to see some returns

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A modified port of Mono is also entirely possible

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You re more likely to see an Android implementation of Silverlight  Microsoft rep has confirmed that it s possible  vs  the iPhone where the rep said it was problematic    But a version of the  Net framework is possible  Just need someone to care about it that much     But really  moving from C  to Java isn t that big of a deal and considering the drastic differences between the two platforms  PC vs  G1  it seems unlikely that you d be able to get by with one codebase for any app that you wanted to run on both

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Since this is one of the first links on Google when search for Android and  net support  it is only fitting to post this here   The mono project is working on a SDK to develop Android applications using CIL languages such as C   The down side is it will be a commercial product  monodroid

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In my opinion  it would be technically possible to convert the CLI Bytecode to Dalvik  and to write wrapper classes for some core features such as Collections  File access  etc   even it would be hard work   But a  NET desktop application ran on android would feel alien  as it would have a classic Windows-Like GUI which is not very usable on a touch device  If  on the other hand  you were to code an android-like GUI in  NET  you would need another set of wrappers  notice that wrapping is just the other way round opposed to the wrappers mentioned above    I m not sure if a  NET mobile application would feel native on android  but I d guess it wouldn t   Maybe you re interestend in another approach  You can write your application in the Java language  You can then compile it to  NET via Microsoft J   I know it s discontinued but you can still download and use it  and use the same Java code on android  Again  that s for the core classes aka business logic and again you would have to write tow GUIs  Maybe you can tages J2ME as well  which you will not be able to do if you use  NET

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NET for Android seems like a real possibility to me  There is news that Microsoft will release proper Silverlight for Android- Never underestimate the advantages to Microsoft for putting the boot into Apple  A smartphone that is faster  more feature rich  faster development lifecycle  impressive hardware  Flash  amp  Silverlight as a standard installable    Microsoft has a vested interest in improving Android  and at the same time  applications will be devloped for Silverlight on Android will also work on Windows Phone 7 OS with multi-touch  GPS  etc   etc

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Since this is one of the first links on Google when search for Android and  net support  it is only fitting to post this here   The mono project is working on a SDK to develop Android applications using CIL languages such as C   The down side is it will be a commercial product  monodroid

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Check this out xmlvm I think this is possible  May be can also check this video

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Check this out xmlvm I think this is possible  May be can also check this video

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NET compact framework has been ported to Symbian OS  http   www redfivelabs com    If  NET as a  closed  platform can be ported to this platform  I can t see any reason why it cannot be done for Android

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Miguel de Icaza s announced on his blog on the 17th of Feb 2010 that they are starting work on mono for android which will be called MonoDroid   This will be similar to MonoTouch on the iphone but for android instead   It will provide binding to the android UI  so apps will look and feel live native android apps  This will require you to write an android specific UI   You will however be able to reuse you existing lower level libraries without the need to recompile

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Check this out xmlvm I think this is possible  May be can also check this video

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There is Mono for Android  the  NET framework ported for Android  And there is MonoDroid  a development stack for using C  and the core  NET APIs to develop Android-based applications  MonoDroid Preview 1 has been released a couple of days ago

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MonoDroid is awailable for preview  I think that will bridge the gap  However  MonoDroid could be a costly option for development  Their other development tools costs anywhere between  199 and  4000  The MonoTouch    iPhone dev tool     is priced between  399 and  3999   If people develop apps with these tools  they need a very strong business model to see some returns

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Miguel de Icaza s announced on his blog on the 17th of Feb 2010 that they are starting work on mono for android which will be called MonoDroid   This will be similar to MonoTouch on the iphone but for android instead   It will provide binding to the android UI  so apps will look and feel live native android apps  This will require you to write an android specific UI   You will however be able to reuse you existing lower level libraries without the need to recompile

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In my opinion  it would be technically possible to convert the CLI Bytecode to Dalvik  and to write wrapper classes for some core features such as Collections  File access  etc   even it would be hard work   But a  NET desktop application ran on android would feel alien  as it would have a classic Windows-Like GUI which is not very usable on a touch device  If  on the other hand  you were to code an android-like GUI in  NET  you would need another set of wrappers  notice that wrapping is just the other way round opposed to the wrappers mentioned above    I m not sure if a  NET mobile application would feel native on android  but I d guess it wouldn t   Maybe you re interestend in another approach  You can write your application in the Java language  You can then compile it to  NET via Microsoft J   I know it s discontinued but you can still download and use it  and use the same Java code on android  Again  that s for the core classes aka business logic and again you would have to write tow GUIs  Maybe you can tages J2ME as well  which you will not be able to do if you use  NET

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NET and Mono are great environments  with many tools and and excellent skills base of people who know how to use them     I think Mono has the opportunity to be the mobile cross-platform development environment of choice  seeing as they are the only alternative to Objective-C on the iPhone and should be portable to Android  and  NET is already on Windows Mobile   I m really hoping to see a solid implementation of Mono on Android  with wrappers for the Android API as with Monotouch  and would be prepared to pay for it since I m not in a position to do it myself

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A modified port of Mono is also entirely possible

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There is Mono for Android  the  NET framework ported for Android  And there is MonoDroid  a development stack for using C  and the core  NET APIs to develop Android-based applications  MonoDroid Preview 1 has been released a couple of days ago

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Update  Since I wrote this answer two years ago  we productized Mono to run on Android    The work included a few steps  porting Mono to Android  integrating it with Visual Studio  building plugins for MonoDevelop on Mac and Windows and exposing the Java Android APIs to  NET languages    This is now available at http   monodroid net   Getting Started  http   monodroid net Welcome Documentation  http   monodroid net Documentation Tutorials  http   monodroid net Tutorials   Mono on Android is based on the Mono 2 10 runtime  and defaults to 4 0 profile with the C  4 0 compiler and uses Mono s new SGen garbage collection engine  as well as our new distributed garbage collection system that performs GC across Java and Mono     The links below reflect Mono on Android as of January of 2009  I have kept them for historical context  Mono now works on Android thanks to the work of Koushik Dutta and Marc Crichton   You can see a video of it running here  http   www koushikdutta com 2009 01 mono-on-android-with-gratuitous-shaky html  And you can get the instructions to build Mono yourself here  http   www koushikdutta com 2009 01 building-mono-for-android html  You can get a benchmark comparing Mono s JIT vs Dalvik s interpreter here  http   www koushikdutta com 2009 01 dalvik-vs-mono html  And of course  you can get a pre-configured image with Mono here  go to the bottom of the post for details on using that   http   www koushikdutta com 2009 01 building-mono-for-android html

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Update  Since I wrote this answer two years ago  we productized Mono to run on Android    The work included a few steps  porting Mono to Android  integrating it with Visual Studio  building plugins for MonoDevelop on Mac and Windows and exposing the Java Android APIs to  NET languages    This is now available at http   monodroid net   Getting Started  http   monodroid net Welcome Documentation  http   monodroid net Documentation Tutorials  http   monodroid net Tutorials   Mono on Android is based on the Mono 2 10 runtime  and defaults to 4 0 profile with the C  4 0 compiler and uses Mono s new SGen garbage collection engine  as well as our new distributed garbage collection system that performs GC across Java and Mono     The links below reflect Mono on Android as of January of 2009  I have kept them for historical context  Mono now works on Android thanks to the work of Koushik Dutta and Marc Crichton   You can see a video of it running here  http   www koushikdutta com 2009 01 mono-on-android-with-gratuitous-shaky html  And you can get the instructions to build Mono yourself here  http   www koushikdutta com 2009 01 building-mono-for-android html  You can get a benchmark comparing Mono s JIT vs Dalvik s interpreter here  http   www koushikdutta com 2009 01 dalvik-vs-mono html  And of course  you can get a pre-configured image with Mono here  go to the bottom of the post for details on using that   http   www koushikdutta com 2009 01 building-mono-for-android html

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Check this out xmlvm I think this is possible  May be can also check this video

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Yes  it will be possible and it won t be that difficult  All what s needed at this point to start with is some kind of converter that will turn MSIL into Dalvik bytecode  Since both formats are open-sourced and well documented  there won t be any problem with it   So  writing Android applications in C  or VB NET will be possible  question is how much of  NET framework standard libraries will be supported  But that s another issue      Oscar Reyes wrote       I m pretty sure if google hand ANY   interest in  net  they would ve design   something while Android was in the   first stages  not now when they are in   production stages  I don t mean it is   not possible  what I m saying is   they re not interested  Maybe in mmm   hhhh 10 yrs    Actually what they ve already designed is very compatible with Java and  NET  They can t do everything at once  but if you look into Android SDK  there is a tool called dx  This tool converts Java bytecode into Dalvik bytecode  so in other words  you can run programs written in Java on Android with no effort today  Now the same tool is needed for  NET   Considering how similar  NET and Java are  it s really a matter of time      ddimitrov wrote       The  Net- Java- Dalvik translation can   be done even now    http   dev mainsoft com    but I   think you underestimate the lack of    Net libraries  Of course somebody can   port Mono  but it s definitely a   non-trivial effort    No need to port Mono  Android already has VM and some basic API  All what s needed is CIL- Dalvik converter and tiny  NET wrapper for Android API  and maybe some basic implementation of some standard  NET classes   That s it   Update   NET already works on Android - you will need product called Monodroid  http   monodroid net  as stated above

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NET compact framework has been ported to Symbian OS  http   www redfivelabs com    If  NET as a  closed  platform can be ported to this platform  I can t see any reason why it cannot be done for Android

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Yes  it will be possible and it won t be that difficult  All what s needed at this point to start with is some kind of converter that will turn MSIL into Dalvik bytecode  Since both formats are open-sourced and well documented  there won t be any problem with it   So  writing Android applications in C  or VB NET will be possible  question is how much of  NET framework standard libraries will be supported  But that s another issue      Oscar Reyes wrote       I m pretty sure if google hand ANY   interest in  net  they would ve design   something while Android was in the   first stages  not now when they are in   production stages  I don t mean it is   not possible  what I m saying is   they re not interested  Maybe in mmm   hhhh 10 yrs    Actually what they ve already designed is very compatible with Java and  NET  They can t do everything at once  but if you look into Android SDK  there is a tool called dx  This tool converts Java bytecode into Dalvik bytecode  so in other words  you can run programs written in Java on Android with no effort today  Now the same tool is needed for  NET   Considering how similar  NET and Java are  it s really a matter of time      ddimitrov wrote       The  Net- Java- Dalvik translation can   be done even now    http   dev mainsoft com    but I   think you underestimate the lack of    Net libraries  Of course somebody can   port Mono  but it s definitely a   non-trivial effort    No need to port Mono  Android already has VM and some basic API  All what s needed is CIL- Dalvik converter and tiny  NET wrapper for Android API  and maybe some basic implementation of some standard  NET classes   That s it   Update   NET already works on Android - you will need product called Monodroid  http   monodroid net  as stated above

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