How unique is UUID

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How safe is it to use UUID to uniquely identify something  I m using it for files uploaded to the server   As I understand it  it is based off random numbers  However  it seems to me that given enough time  it would eventually repeat it self  just by pure chance  Is there a better system or a pattern of some type to alleviate this issue

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Been doing it for years  Never run into a problem    I usually set up my DB s to have one table that contains all the keys and the modified dates and such  Haven t run into a problem of duplicate keys ever   The only drawback that it has is when you are writing some queries to find some information quickly you are doing a lot of copying and pasting of the keys  You don t have the short easy to remember ids anymore

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I concur with the other answers   UUIDs are safe enough for nearly all practical purposes1  and certainly for yours     But suppose  hypothetically  that they aren t      Is there a better system or a pattern of some type to alleviate this issue    Here are a couple of approaches    Use a bigger UUID   For instance  instead of a 128 random bits  use 256 or 512 or       Each bit you add to a type-4 style UUID will reduce the probability of a collision by a half  assuming that you have a reliable source of entropy2  Build a centralized or distributed service that generates UUIDs and records each and every one it has ever issued   Each time it generates a new one  it checks that the UUID has never been issued before   Such a service would be technically straight-forward to implement  I think  if we assumed that the people running the service were absolutely trustworthy  incorruptible  etcetera   Unfortunately  they aren t     especially when there is the possibility of governments  security organizations interfering   So  this approach is probably impractical  and may be3 impossible in the real world      1 - If uniqueness of UUIDs determined whether nuclear missiles got launched at your country s capital city  a lot of your fellow citizens would not be convinced by  the probability is extremely low    Hence my  nearly all  qualification   2 - And here s a philosophical question for you   Is anything ever truly random   How would we know if it wasn t   Is the universe as we know it a simulation   Is there a God who might conceivably  tweak  the laws of physics to alter an outcome   3 - If anyone knows of any research papers on this problem  please comment

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Very safe       the annual risk of a given person being hit by a meteorite is   estimated to be one chance in 17 billion  which means the   probability is about 0 00000000006  6    10-11   equivalent to the odds   of creating a few tens of trillions of UUIDs in a year and having one   duplicate  In other words  only after generating 1 billion UUIDs every   second for the next 100 years  the probability of creating just one   duplicate would be about 50     Caveat      However  these probabilities only hold when the UUIDs are generated   using sufficient entropy  Otherwise  the probability of duplicates   could be significantly higher  since the statistical dispersion might   be lower  Where unique identifiers are required for distributed   applications  so that UUIDs do not clash even when data from many   devices is merged  the randomness of the seeds and generators used on   every device must be reliable for the life of the application  Where   this is not feasible  RFC4122 recommends using a namespace variant   instead    Source  The Random UUID probability of duplicates section of the Wikipedia article on Universally unique identifiers  link leads to a revision from December 2016 before editing reworked the section    Also see the current section on the same subject on the same Universally unique identifier article  Collisions

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UUID schemes generally use not only a pseudo-random element  but also the current system time  and some sort of often-unique hardware ID if available  such as a network MAC address   The whole point of using UUID is that you trust it to do a better job of providing a unique ID than you yourself would be able to do   This is the same rationale behind using a 3rd party cryptography library rather than rolling your own   Doing it yourself may be more fun  but it s typically less responsible to do so

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There is more than one type of UUID  so  how safe  depends on which type  which the UUID specifications call  version   you are using    Version 1 is the time based plus MAC address UUID  The 128-bits contains 48-bits for the network card s MAC address  which is uniquely assigned by the manufacturer  and a 60-bit clock with a resolution of 100 nanoseconds  That clock wraps in 3603 A D  so these UUIDs are safe at least until then  unless you need more than 10 million new UUIDs per second or someone clones your network card   I say  at least  because the clock starts at 15 October 1582  so you have about 400 years after the clock wraps before there is even a small possibility of duplications  Version 4 is the random number UUID  There s six fixed bits and the rest of the UUID is 122-bits of randomness  See Wikipedia or other analysis that describe how very unlikely a duplicate is  Version 3 is uses MD5 and Version 5 uses SHA-1 to create those 122-bits  instead of a random or pseudo-random number generator  So in terms of safety it is like Version 4 being a statistical issue  as long as you make sure what the digest algorithm is processing is always unique   Version 2 is similar to Version 1  but with a smaller clock so it is going to wrap around much sooner  But since Version 2 UUIDs are for DCE  you shouldn t be using these    So for all practical problems they are safe   If you are uncomfortable with leaving it up to probabilities  e g  your are the type of person worried about the earth getting destroyed by a large asteroid in your lifetime   just make sure you use a Version 1 UUID and it is guaranteed to be unique  in your lifetime  unless you plan to live past 3603 A D     So why doesn t everyone simply use Version 1 UUIDs  That is because Version 1 UUIDs reveal the MAC address of the machine it was generated on and they can be predictable -- two things which might have security implications for the application using those UUIDs

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The answer to this may depend largely on the UUID version  Many UUID generators use a version 4 random number   However  many of these use Pseudo a Random Number Generator to generate them  If a poorly seeded PRNG with a small period is used to generate the UUID I would say it s not very safe at all   Some random number generators also have poor variance   i e  favouring certain numbers more often than others   This isn t going to work well  Therefore  it s only as safe as the algorithms used to generate it  On the flip side  if you know the answer to these questions then I think a version 4 uuid should be very safe to use   In fact I m using it to identify blocks on a network block file system and so far have not had a clash  In my case  the PRNG I m using is a mersenne twister and I m being careful with the way it s seeded which is from multiple sources including  dev urandom   Mersenne twister has a period of 2 19937 - 1   It s going to be a very very long time before I see a repeat uuid  So pick a good library or generate it yourself and make sure you use a decent PRNG algorithm

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If by  given enough time  you mean 100 years and you re creating them at a rate of a billion a second  then yes  you have a 50  chance of having a collision after 100 years

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For UUID4 I make it that there are approximately as many IDs as there are grains of sand in a cube-shaped box with sides 360 000km long  That s a box with sides  2 1 2 times longer than Jupiter s diameter   Working so someone can tell me if I ve messed up units    volume of grain of sand 0 00947mm 3  Guardian  UUID4 has 122 random bits -  5 3e36 possible values  wikipedia  volume of that many grains of sand   5 0191e34 mm 3 or 5 0191e 25m 3 side length of cubic box with that volume   3 69E8m or 369 000km diameter of Jupiter  139 820km  google

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I don t know if this matters to you  but keep in mind that GUIDs are globally unique  but substrings of GUIDs aren t

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Quoting from Wikipedia      Thus  anyone can create a UUID and use   it to identify something with   reasonable confidence that the   identifier will never be   unintentionally used by anyone for   anything else   It goes on to explain in pretty good detail on how safe it actually is  So to answer your question  Yes  it s safe enough

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