[css] What's the best way to override a user agent CSS stylesheet rule that gives unordered-lists a 1em margin?

I'm working on a web app that has a topBar similar to facebook's blue bar at the top. I have an unordered list within the div of that bar to list some items, like Inbox, Notifications, etc. The UL has a 1em margin as defined by the user agent stylesheet of my browser. This is a problem because it's pushing my topBar down 1em. How can I override this to make the border of the ul = 0? I've read that overriding user agent stylesheets is a bad idea so I'm curious to learn what is best to do. Thanks.

EDIT: Here's the CSS file:

body {

margin:0px;
padding:0px;
}

#topBar{
    background-color:#CCCCCC;
    height: 50px;
    width:100%;
    z-index:-1;

}

#mainNav{
    margin:0 auto;
    width:900px;
}
#logo{
    float:left;
}

#mainNav ul li{
    float:left;
    border:0px; 
    margin:0;
    padding:0;
    font-size:10px
}

And the html:

<!DOCTYPE html>
<html>
    <head>
        <title>ff</title>
        <%= stylesheet_link_tag :all %>
        <%= javascript_include_tag :defaults %>
        <%= csrf_meta_tag %>
    </head>
    <body>
        <div id="topBar">
            <div id="mainNav">
                <div id="logo"><%=image_tag("livecove.jpg") %></div>
                <ul>
                    <li>Inbox</li>
                </ul>
            </div>
        </div>

        <%= yield %>
    </body>
</html>

This question is related to css overriding

The answer is


Everything you write in your own stylesheet is overwriting the user agent styles - that's the point of writing your own stylesheet.


put this in your "head" of your index.html

 <style>
  html body{
    left: 0;
    right: 0;
    bottom: 0;
    top: 0;
    margin: 0;
  }
  </style>

No its not. Use Meyers CSS reset :) http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/css/reset/


I had the same issues but nothing worked. What I did was I added this to the selector:

-webkit-appearance: none;
-moz-appearance: none;
appearance: none;

I don't understand why nobody points to the specific issue and some answers are totally misleading, especially the accepted answer. The issue is that the OP did not pick a rule that could possibly override the margin property that is set by the User Agent (UA) directly on the ul tag. Let's consider all the rules with a margin property used by the OP.

body {

margin:0px;
...
}

The body element is way up in the DOM and the UA rule matches an element below, so the UA wins. It's the way inheritance works. Inheritance is the means by which, in the absence of any specific declarations from any source applied by the CSS cascade, a property value of an element is obtained from its parent element. Specificity on the parent element is useless, because the UA rule matches directly the element.

#mainNav{
    margin:0 auto;
    ...
}

This is a better attempt, a more specific selector #mainNav, which matches the mainNav element lower in the DOM, but the same principle applies, because the ul element is still below this element in the DOM.

#mainNav ul li{
    ...
    margin:0;
    ...
}

This went too far down in the DOM! Now, the selector matches the li element, which is below the ul element.

So, assuming that the UA rule used the selector ul and not !important, which is most likely the case, the solution would have been a simple ul { margin: 0; }, but it would be safer to make it more specific, say #mainNav ul { margin: 0 }.