Do sessions really violate RESTfulness

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Is using sessions in a RESTful API really violating RESTfulness  I have seen many opinions going either direction  but I m not convinced that sessions are RESTless  From my point of view    authentication is not prohibited for RESTfulness  otherwise there d be little use in RESTful services  authentication is done by sending an authentication token in the request  usually the header this authentication token needs to be obtained somehow and may be revoked  in which case it needs to be renewed the authentication token needs to be validated by the server  otherwise it wouldn t be authentication    So how do sessions violate this    client-side  sessions are realized using cookies cookies are simply an extra HTTP header a session cookie can be obtained and revoked at any time session cookies can have an infinite life time if need be the session id  authentication token  is validated server-side   As such  to the client  a session cookie is exactly the same as any other HTTP header based authentication mechanism  except that it uses the Cookie header instead of the Authorization or some other proprietary header  If there was no session attached to the cookie value server-side  why would that make a difference  The server side implementation does not need to concern the client as long as the server behaves RESTful  As such  cookies by themselves should not make an API RESTless  and sessions are simply cookies to the client   Are my assumptions wrong  What makes session cookies RESTless

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No  using sessions does not necessarily violate RESTfulness  If you adhere to the REST precepts and constraints  then using sessions - to maintain state - will simply be superfluous  After all  RESTfulness requires that the server not maintain state

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HTTP transaction  basic access authentication  is not suitable for RBAC  because basic access authentication uses the encrypted username password every time to identify  while what is needed in RBAC is the Role the user wants to use for a specific call  RBAC does not validate permissions on username  but on roles   You could tric around to concatenate like this  usernameRole password  but this is bad practice  and it is also inefficient because when a user has more roles  the authentication engine would need to test all roles in concatenation  and that every call again  This would destroy one of the biggest technical advantages of RBAC  namely a very quick authorization-test   So that problem cannot be solved using basic access authentication   To solve this problem  session-maintaining is necessary  and that seems  according to some answers  in contradiction with REST   That is what I like about the answer that REST should not be treated as a religion  In complex business cases  in healthcare  for example  RBAC is absolutely common and necessary  And it would be a pity if they would not be allowed to use REST because all REST-tools designers would treat REST as a religion   For me there are not many ways to maintain a session over HTTP  One can use cookies  with a sessionId  or a header with a sessionId   If someone has another idea I will be glad to hear it

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First of all  REST is not a religion and should not be approached as such   While there are advantages to RESTful services  you should only follow the tenets of REST as far as they make sense for your application   That said  authentication and client side state do not violate REST principles   While REST requires that state transitions be stateless  this is referring to the server itself   At the heart  all of REST is about documents   The idea behind statelessness is that the SERVER is stateless  not the clients   Any client issuing an identical request  same headers  cookies  URI  etc  should be taken to the same place in the application   If the website stored the current location of the user and managed navigation by updating this server side navigation variable  then REST would be violated   Another client with identical request information would be taken to a different location depending on the server-side state   Google s web services are a fantastic example of a RESTful system   They require an authentication header with the user s authentication key to be passed upon every request   This does violate REST principles slightly  because the server is tracking the state of the authentication key   The state of this key must be maintained and it has some sort of expiration date time after which it no longer grants access   However  as I mentioned at the top of my post  sacrifices must be made to allow an application to actually work   That said  authentication tokens must be stored in a way that allows all possible clients to continue granting access during their valid times   If one server is managing the state of the authentication key to the point that another load balanced server cannot take over fulfilling requests based on that key  you have started to really violate the principles of REST   Google s services ensure that  at any time  you can take an authentication token you were using on your phone against load balance server A and hit load balance server B from your desktop and still have access to the system and be directed to the same resources if the requests were identical   What it all boils down to is that you need to make sure your authentication tokens are validated against a backing store of some sort  database  cache  whatever  to ensure that you preserve as many of the REST properties as possible   I hope all of that made sense   You should also check out the Constraints section of the wikipedia article on Representational State Transfer if you haven t already   It is particularly enlightening with regard to what the tenets of REST are actually arguing for and why

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Cookies are not for authentication  Why reinvent a wheel  HTTP has well-designed authentication mechanisms  If we use cookies  we fall into using HTTP as a transport protocol only  thus we need to create our own signaling system  for example  to tell users that they supplied wrong authentication  using HTTP 401 would be incorrect as we probably wouldn t supply Www-Authenticate to a client  as HTTP specs require       It should also be noted that Set-Cookie is only a recommendation for client  Its contents may be or may not be saved  for example  if cookies are disabled   while Authorization header is sent automatically on every request    Another point is that  to obtain an authorization cookie  you ll probably want to supply your credentials somewhere first  If so  then wouldn t it be RESTless  Simple example    You try GET  a without cookie You get an authorization request somehow You go and authorize somehow like POST  auth You get Set-Cookie You try GET  a with cookie  But does GET  a behave idempotently in this case    To sum this up  I believe that if we access some resource and we need to authenticate  then we must authenticate on that same resource  not anywhere else

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Sessions are not RESTless Do you mean that REST service for http-use only or I got smth wrong  Cookie-based session must be used only for own    http-based services   It could be a problem to work with cookie  e g  from Mobile Console Desktop etc   if you provide RESTful service for 3d party developers  never use cookie-based session  use tokens instead to avoid the problems with security

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First  let s define some terms    RESTful      One can characterise applications conforming to the REST constraints   described in this section as  RESTful   15  If a service violates any   of the required constraints  it cannot be considered RESTful    according to wikipedia  stateless constraint      We next add a constraint to the client-server interaction    communication must be stateless in nature  as in the   client-stateless-server  CSS  style of Section 3 4 3  Figure 5-3     such that each request from client to server must contain all of the   information necessary to understand the request  and cannot take   advantage of any stored context on the server  Session state is   therefore kept entirely on the client    according to the Fielding dissertation    So server side sessions violate the stateless constraint of REST  and so RESTfulness either      As such  to the client  a session cookie is exactly the same as any   other HTTP header based authentication mechanism  except that it uses   the Cookie header instead of the Authorization or some other   proprietary header    By session cookies you store the client state on the server and so your request has a context  Let s try to add a load balancer and another service instance to your system  In this case you have to share the sessions between the service instances  It is hard to maintain and extend such a system  so it scales badly     In my opinion there is nothing wrong with cookies  The cookie technology is a client side storing mechanism in where the stored data is attached automatically to cookie headers by every request  I don t know of a REST constraint which has problem with that kind of technology  So there is no problem with the technology itself  the problem is with its usage  Fielding wrote a sub-section about why he thinks HTTP cookies are bad      From my point of view          authentication is not prohibited for RESTfulness  otherwise there d be little use in RESTful services    authentication is done by sending an authentication token in the request  usually the header   this authentication token needs to be obtained somehow and may be revoked  in which case it needs to be renewed   the authentication token needs to be validated by the server  otherwise it wouldn t be authentication       Your point of view was pretty solid  The only problem was with the concept of creating authentication token on the server  You don t need that part  What you need is storing username and password on the client and send it with every request  You don t need more to do this than HTTP basic auth and an encrypted connection      Figure 1  - Stateless authentication by trusted clients   You probably need an in-memory auth cache on server side to make things faster  since you have to authenticate every request   Now this works pretty well by trusted clients written by you  but what about 3rd party clients  They cannot have the username and password and all the permissions of the users  So you have to store separately what permissions a 3rd party client can have by a specific user  So the client developers can register they 3rd party clients  and get an unique API key and the users can allow 3rd party clients to access some part of their permissions  Like reading the name and email address  or listing their friends  etc    After allowing a 3rd party client the server will generate an access token  These access token can be used by the 3rd party client to access the permissions granted by the user  like so       Figure 2  - Stateless authentication by 3rd party clients   So the 3rd party client can get the access token from a trusted client  or directly from the user   After that it can send a valid request with the API key and access token  This is the most basic 3rd party auth mechanism  You can read more about the implementation details in the documentation of every 3rd party auth system  e g  OAuth  Of course this can be more complex and more secure  for example you can sign the details of every single request on server side and send the signature along with the request  and so on    The actual solution depends on your application s need

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Actually  RESTfulness only applies to RESOURCES  as indicated by a Universal Resource Identifier   So to even talk about things like headers  cookies  etc  in regards to REST is not really appropriate   REST can work over any protocol  even though it happens to be routinely done over HTTP   The main determiner is this  if you send a REST call  which is a URI  then once the call makes it successfully to the server  does that URI return the same content  assuming no transitions have been performed  PUT  POST  DELETE    This test would exclude errors or authentication requests being returned  because in that case  the request has not yet made it to the server  meaning the servlet or application that will return the document corresponding to the given URI   Likewise  in the case of a POST or PUT  can you send a given URI payload  and regardless of how many times you send the message  it will always update the same data  so that subsequent GETs will return a consistent result   REST is about the application data  not about the low-level information required to get that data transferred about     In the following blog post  Roy Fielding gave a nice summary of the whole REST idea   http   groups yahoo com neo groups rest-discuss conversations topics 5841   A RESTful system progresses from one steady-state to the next  and each such steady-state is both a potential start-state and a potential end-state  I e   a RESTful system is an unknown number of components obeying a simple set of rules such that they are always either at REST or transitioning from one RESTful state to another RESTful state  Each state can be completely understood by the representation s  it contains and the set of transitions that it provides  with the transitions limited to a uniform set of actions to be understandable  The system may be a complex state diagram  but each user agent is only able to see one state at a time  the current steady-state  and thus each state is simple and can be analyzed independently  A user  OTOH  is able to create their own transitions at any time  e g   enter a URL  select a bookmark  open an editor  etc        Going to the issue of authentication  whether it is accomplished through cookies or headers  as long as the information isn t part of the URI and POST payload  it really has nothing to do with REST at all   So  in regards to being stateless  we are talking about the application data only   For example  as the user enters data into a GUI screen  the client is keeping track of what fields have been entered  which have not  any required fields that are missing etc   This is all CLIENT CONTEXT  and should not be sent or tracked by the server   What does get sent to the server is the complete set of fields that need to be modified in the IDENTIFIED resource  by the URI   such that a transition occurs in that resource from one RESTful state to another   So  the client keeps track of what the user is doing  and only sends logically complete state transitions to the server

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i think token must include all the needed information encoded inside it  which makes authentication by validating the token and decoding the info  https   www oauth com oauth2-servers access-tokens self-encoded-access-tokens

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