Why not use Double or Float to represent currency

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I ve always been told never to represent money with double or float types  and this time I pose the question to you  why    I m sure there is a very good reason  I simply do not know what it is

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Float is binary form of Decimal with different design; they are two different things. There are little errors between two types when converted to each other. Also, float is designed to represent infinite large number of values for scientific. That means it is designed to lost precision to extreme small and extreme large number with that fixed number of bytes. Decimal can't represent infinite number of values, it bounds to just that number of decimal digits. So Float and Decimal are for different purpose.

There are some ways to manage the error for currency value:

Use long integer and count in cents instead.
Use double precision, keep your significant digits to 15 only so decimal can be exactly simulated. Round before presenting values; Round often when doing calculations.
Use a decimal library like Java BigDecimal so you don't need to use double to simulate decimal.

p.s. it is interesting to know that most brands of handheld scientific calculators works on decimal instead of float. So no one complaint float conversion errors.

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American currency can easily be represented with dollar and cent amounts   Integers are 100  precise  while floating point binary numbers do not exactly match floating point decimals

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Many of the answers posted to this question discuss IEEE and the standards surrounding floating-point arithmetic   Coming from a non-computer science background  physics and engineering   I tend to look at problems from a different perspective  For me  the reason why I wouldn t use a double or float in a mathematical calculation is that I would lose too much information   What are the alternatives  There are many  and many more of which I am not aware     BigDecimal in Java is native to the Java language  Apfloat is another arbitrary-precision library for Java   The decimal data type in C  is Microsoft s  NET alternative for 28 significant figures   SciPy  Scientific Python  can probably also handle financial calculations  I haven t tried  but I suspect so    The GNU Multiple Precision Library  GMP  and the GNU MFPR Library are two free and open-source resources for C and C     There are also numerical precision libraries for JavaScript    and I think PHP which can handle financial calculations   There are also proprietary  particularly  I think  for Fortran  and open-source solutions as well for many computer languages   I m not a computer scientist by training  However  I tend to lean towards either BigDecimal in Java or decimal in C   I haven t tried the other solutions I ve listed  but they are probably very good as well   For me  I like BigDecimal because of the methods it supports  C  s decimal is very nice  but I haven t had the chance to work with it as much as I d like  I do scientific calculations of interest to me in my spare time  and BigDecimal seems to work very well because I can set the precision of my floating point numbers  The disadvantage to BigDecimal  It can be slow at times  especially if you re using the divide method   You might  for speed  look into the free and proprietary libraries in C  C    and Fortran

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I ll risk being downvoted  but I think the unsuitability of floating point numbers for currency calculations is overrated  As long as you make sure you do the cent-rounding correctly and have enough significant digits to work with in order to counter the binary-decimal representation mismatch explained by zneak  there will be no problem   People calculating with currency in Excel have always used double precision floats  there is no currency type in Excel  and I have yet to see anyone complaining about rounding errors   Of course  you have to stay within reason  e g  a simple webshop would probably never experience any problem with double precision floats  but if you do e g  accounting or anything else that requires adding a large  unrestricted  amount of numbers  you wouldn t want to touch floating point numbers with a ten foot pole

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Floats and doubles are approximate  If you create a BigDecimal and pass a float into the constructor you see what the float actually equals   groovy 000 gt  new BigDecimal 1 0F      gt  1 groovy 000 gt  new BigDecimal 1 01F      gt  1 0099999904632568359375   this probably isn t how you want to represent  1 01   The problem is that the IEEE spec doesn t have a way to exactly represent all fractions  some of them end up as repeating fractions so you end up with approximation errors  Since accountants like things to come out exactly to the penny  and customers will be annoyed if they pay their bill and after the payment is processed they owe  01 and they get charged a fee or can t close their account  it s better to use exact types like decimal  in C   or java math BigDecimal in Java   It s not that the error isn t controllable if you round  see this article by Peter Lawrey  It s just easier not to have to round in the first place  Most applications that handle money don t call for a lot of math  the operations consist of adding things or allocating amounts to different buckets  Introducing floating point and rounding just complicates things

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As said earlier  quot Representing money as a double or float will probably look good at first as the software rounds off the tiny errors  but as you perform more additions  subtractions  multiplications and divisions on inexact numbers  you   ll lose more and more precision as the errors add up  This makes floats and doubles inadequate for dealing with money  where perfect accuracy for multiples of base 10 powers is required  quot  Finally Java has a standard way to work with Currency And Money  JSR 354  Money and Currency API JSR 354 provides an API for representing  transporting  and performing comprehensive calculations with Money and Currency  You can download it from this link  JSR 354  Money and Currency API Download The specification consists of the following things    An API for handling e  g  monetary amounts and currencies APIs to support interchangeable implementations Factories for creating instances of the implementation classes Functionality for calculations  conversion and formatting of monetary            amounts Java API for working with Money and Currencies  which is planned to be included in Java 9  All specification classes and interfaces are located in the javax money   package    Sample Examples of JSR 354  Money and Currency API  An example of creating a MonetaryAmount and printing it to the console looks like this  MonetaryAmountFactory lt   gt  amountFactory   Monetary getDefaultAmountFactory    MonetaryAmount monetaryAmount   amountFactory setCurrency Monetary getCurrency  quot EUR quot    setNumber 12345 67  create    MonetaryAmountFormat format   MonetaryFormats getAmountFormat Locale getDefault     System out println format format monetaryAmount     When using the reference implementation API  the necessary code is much simpler  MonetaryAmount monetaryAmount   Money of 12345 67   quot EUR quot    MonetaryAmountFormat format   MonetaryFormats getAmountFormat Locale getDefault     System out println format format monetaryAmount     The API also supports calculations with MonetaryAmounts  MonetaryAmount monetaryAmount   Money of 12345 67   quot EUR quot    MonetaryAmount otherMonetaryAmount   monetaryAmount divide 2  add Money of 5   quot EUR quot      CurrencyUnit and MonetaryAmount    getting CurrencyUnits by locale CurrencyUnit yen   MonetaryCurrencies getCurrency Locale JAPAN   CurrencyUnit canadianDollar   MonetaryCurrencies getCurrency Locale CANADA    MonetaryAmount has various methods that allow accessing the assigned currency  the numeric amount  its precision and more  MonetaryAmount monetaryAmount   Money of 123 45  euro   CurrencyUnit currency   monetaryAmount getCurrency    NumberValue numberValue   monetaryAmount getNumber     int intValue   numberValue intValue       123 double doubleValue   numberValue doubleValue       123 45 long fractionDenominator   numberValue getAmountFractionDenominator       100 long fractionNumerator   numberValue getAmountFractionNumerator       45 int precision   numberValue getPrecision       5     NumberValue extends java lang Number     So we assign numberValue to a variable of type Number Number number   numberValue   MonetaryAmounts can be rounded using a rounding operator  CurrencyUnit usd   MonetaryCurrencies getCurrency  quot USD quot    MonetaryAmount dollars   Money of 12 34567  usd   MonetaryOperator roundingOperator   MonetaryRoundings getRounding usd   MonetaryAmount roundedDollars   dollars with roundingOperator      USD 12 35  When working with collections of MonetaryAmounts  some nice utility methods for filtering  sorting and grouping are available  List lt MonetaryAmount gt  amounts   new ArrayList lt  gt     amounts add Money of 2   quot EUR quot     amounts add Money of 42   quot USD quot     amounts add Money of 7   quot USD quot     amounts add Money of 13 37   quot JPY quot     amounts add Money of 18   quot USD quot      Custom MonetaryAmount operations    A monetary operator that returns 10  of the input MonetaryAmount    Implemented using Java 8 Lambdas MonetaryOperator tenPercentOperator    MonetaryAmount amount  - gt        BigDecimal baseAmount   amount getNumber   numberValue BigDecimal class       BigDecimal tenPercent   baseAmount multiply new BigDecimal  quot 0 1 quot         return Money of tenPercent  amount getCurrency         MonetaryAmount dollars   Money of 12 34567   quot USD quot        apply tenPercentOperator to MonetaryAmount MonetaryAmount tenPercentDollars   dollars with tenPercentOperator      USD 1 234567  Resources  Handling money and currencies in Java with JSR 354 Looking into the Java 9 Money and Currency API  JSR 354  See Also  JSR 354 - Currency and Money

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To add on previous answers  there is also option of implementing Joda-Money in Java  besides BigDecimal  when dealing with the problem addressed in the question  Java modul name is org joda money   It requires Java SE 8 or later and has no dependencies       To be more precise  there is compile-time dependency but it is not   required     lt dependency gt     lt groupId gt org joda lt  groupId gt     lt artifactId gt joda-money lt  artifactId gt     lt version gt 1 0 1 lt  version gt   lt  dependency gt    Examples of using Joda Money        create a monetary value   Money money   Money parse  USD 23 87          add another amount with safe double conversion   CurrencyUnit usd   CurrencyUnit of  USD      money   money plus Money of usd  12 43d          subtracts an amount in dollars   money   money minusMajor 2         multiplies by 3 5 with rounding   money   money multipliedBy 3 5d  RoundingMode DOWN         compare two amounts   boolean bigAmount   money isGreaterThan dailyWage         convert to GBP using a supplied rate   BigDecimal conversionRate            obtained from code outside Joda-Money   Money moneyGBP   money convertedTo CurrencyUnit GBP  conversionRate  RoundingMode HALF UP         use a BigMoney for more complex calculations where scale matters   BigMoney moneyCalc   money toBigMoney         Documentation    http   joda-money sourceforge net apidocs org joda money Money html      Implementation examples    https   www programcreek com java-api-examples  api org joda money Money

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Here are some tips on working with float and decimals  0 1 x 10   1   Seems reasonable  but at computer level you as developer should handle that  At any programming language  this was tested with Delphi  VBScript  Visual Basic  JavaScript and now with Java Android       double total   0 0          do 10 adds of 10 cents     for  int i   0  i  lt  10  i              total    0 1      adds 10 cents            Log d  quot round problems  quot    quot current total   quot    total           looks like total equals to 1 0  don t          now  do reverse     for  int i   0  i  lt  10  i              total -  0 1      removes 10 cents               looks like total equals to 0 0  don t      Log d  quot round problems  quot    quot current total   quot    total       if  total    0 0            Log d  quot round problems  quot    quot is total equal to ZERO  YES  of course   quot          else           Log d  quot round problems  quot    quot is total equal to ZERO  No    quot               so be careful comparing equality in this cases           OUTPUT   round  problems   current total  0 9999999999999999  round  problems   current total  2 7755575615628914E-17  round  problems   is total equal to ZERO  No

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If your computation involves various steps  arbitrary precision arithmetic won t cover you 100    The only reliable way to use a perfect representation of results Use a custom Fraction data type that will batch division operations to the last step  and only convert to decimal notation in the last step   Arbitrary precision won t help because there always can be numbers that has so many decimal places  or some results such as 0 6666666    No arbitrary representation will cover the last example  So you will have small errors in each step   These errors will add-up  may eventually become not easy to ignore anymore  This is called Error Propagation

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The result of floating point number is not exact  which makes them unsuitable for any financial calculation which requires exact result and not approximation  float and double are designed for engineering and scientific calculation and many times doesn   t produce exact result also result of floating point calculation may vary from JVM to JVM  Look at below example of BigDecimal and double primitive which is used to represent money value  its quite clear that floating point calculation may not be exact and one should use BigDecimal for financial calculations          floating point calculation     final double amount1   2 0      final double amount2   1 1      System out println  difference between 2 0 and 1 1 using double is       amount1 - amount2            Use BigDecimal for financial calculation     final BigDecimal amount3   new BigDecimal  2 0        final BigDecimal amount4   new BigDecimal  1 1        System out println  difference between 2 0 and 1 1 using BigDecimal is       amount3 subtract amount4       Output   difference between 2 0 and 1 1 using double is  0 8999999999999999 difference between 2 0 and 1 1 using BigDecimal is  0 9

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Most answers have highlighted the reasons why one should not use doubles for money and currency calculations  And I totally agree with them    It doesn t mean though that doubles can never be used for that purpose    I have worked on a number of projects with very low gc requirements  and having BigDecimal objects was a big contributor to that overhead    It s the lack of understanding about double representation and lack of experience in handling the accuracy and precision that brings about this wise suggestion   You can make it work if you are able to handle the precision and accuracy requirements of your project  which has to be done based on what range of double values is one dealing with   You can refer to guava s FuzzyCompare method to get more idea  The parameter tolerance is the key   We dealt with this problem for a securities trading application and we did an exhaustive research on what tolerances to use for different numerical values in different ranges   Also  there might be situations when you re tempted to use Double wrappers as a map key with hash map being the implementation  It is very risky because Double equals and hash code for example values  0 5   amp   0 6 - 0 1  will cause a big mess

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While it s true that floating point type can represent only approximatively decimal data  it s also true that if one rounds numbers to the necessary precision before presenting them  one obtains the correct result  Usually   Usually because the double type has a precision less than 16 figures  If you require better precision it s not a suitable type  Also approximations can accumulate   It must be said that even if you use fixed point arithmetic you still have to round numbers  were it not for the fact that BigInteger and BigDecimal give errors if you obtain periodic decimal numbers  So there is an approximation also here   For example COBOL  historically used for financial calculations  has a maximum precision of 18 figures  So there is often an implicit rounding   Concluding  in my opinion the double is unsuitable mostly for its 16 digit precision  which can be insufficient  not because it is approximate   Consider the following output of the subsequent program  It shows that after rounding double give the same result as BigDecimal up to precision 16   Precision 14 ------------------------------------------------------ BigDecimalNoRound               56789 012345   1111111111   Non-terminating decimal expansion  no exact representable decimal result  DoubleNoRound                   56789 012345   1111111111   5 111011111561101E-5 BigDecimal                      56789 012345   1111111111   0 000051110111115611 Double                          56789 012345   1111111111   0 000051110111115611  Precision 15 ------------------------------------------------------ BigDecimalNoRound               56789 012345   1111111111   Non-terminating decimal expansion  no exact representable decimal result  DoubleNoRound                   56789 012345   1111111111   5 111011111561101E-5 BigDecimal                      56789 012345   1111111111   0 0000511101111156110 Double                          56789 012345   1111111111   0 0000511101111156110  Precision 16 ------------------------------------------------------ BigDecimalNoRound               56789 012345   1111111111   Non-terminating decimal expansion  no exact representable decimal result  DoubleNoRound                   56789 012345   1111111111   5 111011111561101E-5 BigDecimal                      56789 012345   1111111111   0 00005111011111561101 Double                          56789 012345   1111111111   0 00005111011111561101  Precision 17 ------------------------------------------------------ BigDecimalNoRound               56789 012345   1111111111   Non-terminating decimal expansion  no exact representable decimal result  DoubleNoRound                   56789 012345   1111111111   5 111011111561101E-5 BigDecimal                      56789 012345   1111111111   0 000051110111115611011 Double                          56789 012345   1111111111   0 000051110111115611013  Precision 18 ------------------------------------------------------ BigDecimalNoRound               56789 012345   1111111111   Non-terminating decimal expansion  no exact representable decimal result  DoubleNoRound                   56789 012345   1111111111   5 111011111561101E-5 BigDecimal                      56789 012345   1111111111   0 0000511101111156110111 Double                          56789 012345   1111111111   0 0000511101111156110125  Precision 19 ------------------------------------------------------ BigDecimalNoRound               56789 012345   1111111111   Non-terminating decimal expansion  no exact representable decimal result  DoubleNoRound                   56789 012345   1111111111   5 111011111561101E-5 BigDecimal                      56789 012345   1111111111   0 00005111011111561101111 Double                          56789 012345   1111111111   0 00005111011111561101252     import java lang reflect InvocationTargetException  import java lang reflect Method  import java math BigDecimal  import java math MathContext   public class Exercise       public static void main String   args  throws IllegalArgumentException              SecurityException  IllegalAccessException              InvocationTargetException  NoSuchMethodException           String amount    56789 012345           String quantity    1111111111           int    precisions   new int     14  15  16  17  18  19           for  int i   0  i  lt  precisions length  i                  int precision   precisions i               System out println String format  Precision  d   precision                System out println  ------------------------------------------------------                execute  BigDecimalNoRound   amount  quantity  precision               execute  DoubleNoRound   amount  quantity  precision               execute  BigDecimal   amount  quantity  precision               execute  Double   amount  quantity  precision               System out println                         private static void execute String test  String amount  String quantity              int precision  throws IllegalArgumentException  SecurityException              IllegalAccessException  InvocationTargetException              NoSuchMethodException           Method impl   Exercise class getMethod  divideUsing    test  String class                  String class  int class           String price          try               price    String  impl invoke null  amount  quantity  precision             catch  InvocationTargetException e                price   e getTargetException   getMessage                      System out println String format   -30s   s    s    s   test  amount                  quantity  price               public static String divideUsingDoubleNoRound String amount              String quantity  int precision               acceptance         double amount0   Double parseDouble amount           double quantity0   Double parseDouble quantity              calculation         double price0   amount0   quantity0              presentation         String price   Double toString price0           return price             public static String divideUsingDouble String amount  String quantity              int precision               acceptance         double amount0   Double parseDouble amount           double quantity0   Double parseDouble quantity              calculation         double price0   amount0   quantity0              presentation         MathContext precision0   new MathContext precision           String price   new BigDecimal price0  precision0                   toString            return price             public static String divideUsingBigDecimal String amount  String quantity              int precision               acceptance         BigDecimal amount0   new BigDecimal amount           BigDecimal quantity0   new BigDecimal quantity           MathContext precision0   new MathContext precision              calculation         BigDecimal price0   amount0 divide quantity0  precision0               presentation         String price   price0 toString            return price             public static String divideUsingBigDecimalNoRound String amount  String quantity              int precision               acceptance         BigDecimal amount0   new BigDecimal amount           BigDecimal quantity0   new BigDecimal quantity              calculation         BigDecimal price0   amount0 divide quantity0               presentation         String price   price0 toString            return price

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I m troubled by some of these responses   I think doubles and floats have a place in financial calculations   Certainly  when adding and subtracting non-fractional monetary amounts there will be no loss of precision when using integer classes or BigDecimal classes   But when performing more complex operations  you often end up with results that go out several or many decimal places  no matter how you store the numbers   The issue is how you present the result   If your result is on the borderline between being rounded up and rounded down  and that last penny really matters  you should be probably be telling the viewer that the answer is nearly in the middle - by displaying more decimal places   The problem with doubles  and more so with floats  is when they are used to combine large numbers and small numbers   In java   System out println 1000000 0f   1 2f - 1000000 0f     results in  1 1875

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Because floats and doubles cannot accurately represent the base 10 multiples that we use for money  This issue isn t just for Java  it s for any programming language that uses base 2 floating-point types   In base 10  you can write 10 25 as 1025   10-2  an integer times a power of 10   IEEE-754 floating-point numbers are different  but a very simple way to think about them is to multiply by a power of two instead  For instance  you could be looking at 164   2-4  an integer times a power of two   which is also equal to 10 25  That s not how the numbers are represented in memory  but the math implications are the same   Even in base 10  this notation cannot accurately represent most simple fractions  For instance  you can t represent 1 3  the decimal representation is repeating  0 3333      so there is no finite integer that you can multiply by a power of 10 to get 1 3  You could settle on a long sequence of 3 s and a small exponent  like 333333333   10-10  but it is not accurate  if you multiply that by 3  you won t get  1   However  for the purpose of counting money  at least for countries whose money is valued within an order of magnitude of the US dollar  usually all you need is to be able to store multiples of 10-2  so it doesn t really matter that 1 3 can t be represented   The problem with floats and doubles is that the vast majority of money-like numbers don t have an exact representation as an integer times a power of 2  In fact  the only multiples of 0 01 between 0 and 1  which are significant when dealing with money because they re integer cents  that can be represented exactly as an IEEE-754 binary floating-point number are 0  0 25  0 5  0 75 and 1  All the others are off by a small amount  As an analogy to the 0 333333 example  if you take the floating-point value for 0 1 and you multiply it by  10  you won t get  1   Representing money as a double or float will probably look good at first as the software rounds off the tiny errors  but as you perform more additions  subtractions  multiplications and divisions on inexact numbers  errors will compound and you ll end up with values that are visibly not accurate  This makes floats and doubles inadequate for dealing with money  where perfect accuracy for multiples of base 10 powers is required   A solution that works in just about any language is to use integers instead  and count cents  For instance  1025 would be  10 25  Several languages also have built-in types to deal with money  Among others  Java  has the BigDecimal class  and C  has the decimal type

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From Bloch  J   Effective Java  2nd ed  Item 48      The float and double types are   particularly ill-suited for monetary   calculations because it is impossible   to represent 0 1  or any other   negative power of ten  as a float or   double exactly       For example  suppose you have  1 03   and you spend 42c  How much money do   you have left   System out println 1 03 -  42         prints out 0 6100000000000001       The right way to solve this problem is   to use BigDecimal  int or long   for monetary calculations    Though BigDecimal has some caveats  please see currently accepted answer

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This is not a matter of accuracy  nor is it a matter of precision   It is a matter of meeting the expectations of humans who use base 10 for calculations instead of base 2   For example  using doubles for financial calculations does not produce answers that are  wrong  in a mathematical sense  but it can produce answers that are not what is expected in a financial sense   Even if you round off your results at the last minute before output  you can still occasionally get a result using doubles that does not match expectations   Using a calculator  or calculating results by hand  1 40   165   231 exactly   However  internally using doubles  on my compiler   operating system environment  it is stored as a binary number close to 230 99999    so if you truncate the number  you get 230 instead of 231   You may reason that rounding instead of truncating would have given the desired result of 231   That is true  but rounding always involves truncation   Whatever rounding technique you use  there are still boundary conditions like this one that will round down when you expect it to round up   They are rare enough that they often will not be found through casual testing or observation   You may have to write some code to search for examples that illustrate outcomes that do not behave as expected   Assume you want to round something to the nearest penny   So you take your final result  multiply by 100  add 0 5  truncate  then divide the result by 100 to get back to pennies   If the internal number you stored was 3 46499999     instead of 3 465  you are going to get 3 46 instead 3 47 when you round the number to the nearest penny   But your base 10 calculations may have indicated that the answer should be 3 465 exactly  which clearly should round up to 3 47  not down to 3 46   These kinds of things happen occasionally in real life when you use doubles for financial calculations   It is rare  so it often goes unnoticed as an issue  but it happens   If you use base 10 for your internal calculations instead of doubles  the answers are always exactly what is expected by humans  assuming no other bugs in your code

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